Tuesday, July 26, 2011

This had to be done part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyu50HnvvDI

My continued critique of this video

" Then she got hooked up with a more expensive abortionist once again thru the rape counselor that the police referred her to."

It is noteworthy that it was the rape counselor that tried to help your mom abort. Considering the police themselves recommended that counselor, chances are they were legite.  They are professionals that deal with victims on a daily basis and know what their needs are. Who do you think should be the decider over the laws regarding rape abortions? The professional trained to meet the needs of trauma survivors or someone with an existential crisis ( guess which one I think you are?)

" She said there were no pregnancy centers back then but if there had been she would have gone."

Everyone please check out the organization www.cpcwatch.org to learn more about these deceptive clinics that try to coerce and sometimes harrass women out of abortion care. I dont doubt her mom probably would have gone. She was in a highly vulnerable state and was just looking for any help available. I think it is also noteworthy that there WERENT pregnancy centers back then. Why? Crisis pregnancies existed back then. Where were you people for those ladies back then? Considering abortion wasnt even a legal option I would think women would need even more help since having a child was there only option. Or could it be because pregnancy centers arnt about trying to help women but are there just to keep women from having abortions and nothing else? And who is to say that even if your mom had gone to a pregnancy center that she would have changed her mind about the abortion anyway? You want to know what else there werent of back then? Rape shield laws that kept victims personal history from being used against them in court when they testified against their perps. Rape victims were treated like garbage by the legal system and still commonly are. Society as a whole demeaned and dehumanized women who were raped which is why they denied your mother reproductive choice after her attack.

" I think it is just so pathetic that people would hear me describe the conditions of my moms abortionist and say Its just so awful that your mother had to go thru that in order to be able to abort you."

This pretty much cements my prior theory that the reason Rebecca doesnt go into detail about her mothers rape is because to do so would garner empathy for her mother. Even when telling people the circumstances of her mothers would be back alley abortion, she IMMEDIATLY turns it into HER tall of woe by attemtping to redirect any concern the listener has for her mother plight into how it offends HER sensibilities. What is pathetic is that your mother was raped. What is pathetic is that pregnancy can result from it. What is pathetic is that we live in a world where people have to make such harsh choices in the first place. THAT is what is truly pathetic. And yes it absolutely IS awful that your mother was that desperate. It absolutely IS awful that she was put into such a terrible circumstance where she could have been severly injured if not killed.

" Like thats compassionate? I know in there minds they think they are being compassionate but that is pretty cold hearted from where i stand dont you think because that is my life they are talking about."

During this entire spiel she uses exaggered and hyperbolic tones, which is incredibly irritating. Where you stand? You stand nowhere because you are not the one who endured anything terrible nor could you have. It is cold hearted to you because in YOUR mind YOU think you are being compassionate.... towards yourself. I dont believe for a minute that you see your mom as the real victim of injustice in your narrative because in this entire video you skim over her well being except at the end to say " she is alright". And yes, it IS compassionate to say those back alley conditions are awful. It is compassionate towards the victim, and guess what, the victim aint you. Its your life were talking about? No your life hadnt started in any practical way. Your mothers was a life in progress that was brutally intercepted and deserved to be meanded in any way possible, including thru abortion.

" She's ok life went on for her, but I would have been killed thru a brutal abortion."

What if life handt gone on for her? What if her life had remained shattered like INNUMERABLE women thruout history who were denied reproductive choice? What if she had committed suicide? What then? Is your birth still so monumentously important? You know who was almost brutally killed? Your mother, the VICTIM. She was almost brutally killed by your father and then 2 more times by back alley thugs. And considering a fetus doesnt feel pain until well into the second trimester, you wouldnt have endured ANYTHING horrible if she had decided to go thru it.

" I may not look the same as when I was 4 years old or 4 days old yet in my mothers womb but that was still me."

You know what REALLY wasnt the same as when you were an embryo and when you were 4 days old? Embryonically, you had no awareness, nerves, senses, survival instinct, autonomous existence, or integrated social network or societal function.

" This abortion doctor had a filthy mouth as many of them do."

You should really come to do abortion clinic escorting for termination patients with me sometime if you want to know what filthy language is. Talk to any pro choice worker and they will tell you the harrassing phone calls they get. And how the heck do you know most doctors have filthy mouths?

" For some people their near death experience is waking up out of a coma to find out they were almost killed in an automobile accident."

Which is again a complete strawman to  your situation since no one is trying to legalize or illegalize automobile accidents. Nor are people who are in comas from automobile accidents infringing on the rights of other people like your forced birth did. And how do you know all people that were in a coma consider themselves to have been near death? Many people consider near death to be when you "see a bright light" or a possible vision of the afterlife and come back to tell about it. NOTHING like your situation. People who wake up from comas also had prior life experience to reflect back on to TRULY feel like they survived something, unlike you.

" But for me this is my near death experience>"

Are you telling me that every single almost abortion that resulted in a life birth ( I have read other testimonials) feels the way you do? I know for a fact they dont. As I just said some dont feel that way. The only ones i have read that do are the insecure pitty pots or religious zealots who believe their birth was destined above all else. I myself was stillborn. The doctors had to revive me after the umbilical cord strangled me. Do I consider that a near death experience? Heck no!! I have no memory of it.

" People will say well you were just lucky. I wasnt lucky, I was protected."

You know who wasnt protected and who REALLY could have used some. Your mother, the VICTIM. If you are still reading this, you will notice that I keep highliting the word victim when describing her mother. The reason is because she is the true victim and not Rebecca who has imposed victimhood on herself. Rebecca desperately tries to take her mothers tale and make herself out to be the victim. I wont allow her to. I am going to keep pointing out that she is NOT the victim here.

" And prolife hereos who didnt even know of my exact existence recognized that mind was a life worth saving."

What they didnt acknowledge was the rights of women to be equal members of society by being able to control their own fertility. What they didnt acknowledge was the motivations of rape. That it is a crime of wanting to have total power over someone else's body and life, which is what you are advocating by forcing the victims to have babies. And respect for life didnt cause your birth. Rape culture did. Mysoginistic mindsets of rape victims being damaged goods that didnt deserve to regain a sense of control over their destinies led to them enacting draconian measures that hurt and continue to hurt countless women around the globe.

2 comments:

  1. Very good breakdown of her comments.

    What stands out most in your analysis is how she pretty much omits any account of her mother's rape; the act which put her in the position she was in.

    Of course, Rebecca wants all the empathy to be focused on her and her alone. Rebecca shares the opinion that most anti-choicers share...that women are merely sperm recepticles and brood mares. When I use these terms, anti-choicers say I am being extreme, but when you think a woman should continue a pregnancy under any circumstance, regardless of mental, physical, emotional and financial affects it may cause...you are treating the woman no better and in fact, worse, than a breeding animal.

    If you see a woman no better than a breeding animal, you have absolutely no problem denying her any right to her automony. Rebecca does not see this as a complex issue, as we see it. Of course, we feel no woman should ever have to be in the position to make the choice. Her mother should have never been raped. However, the choice should be the victim's choice.

    Rebecca thinks everyone stands against her. No on has every said all rape pregnancies must be aborted. If her mother had wanted an legal abortion, she should have had access to it...just as my mother had access to abortion when I was conceived. She, however, stands against EVERY WOMAN/CHILD WHO HAS BEEN RAPED AND HAS COVCEIVED.

    She is sick. I bet she doesn't speak out against rape because she see that as an assult on her existence as well.

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  2. Ditto what C_C_83 said.

    Again, thanks for this blog and your response to her.

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