More strawmen to light a cornfield with

http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/01/if-casey-anthony-was-raped-then-pro-choice-logic-dictates-caylees-life-had-no-value/

:IF CASEY ANTHONY WAS RAPED, THEN PRO CHOICE LOGIC DICTATES THAT CAYLEE'S LIFE HAD NO VALUE"

It is a bad sign when the very TITLE of an article is a strawman. NO ONE SAYS THAT! Pro choice people have adopted children born of rape as well as raised them. It is pro-CHOICE, as in women have a choice to abort or not.

"What is the cry of the pro-abortion Left in regards to abortion?"

More strawmen. It is pro-CHOICE not pro abortion. You refer to us as such in your title. Why the change now? And it is our "cry" for very legitimate reasons. Rape is about power and NOTHING would make a rapist happier than to know he can literally choose any woman he wants for his own personal breeding machine. 32,101 women in America ALONE every year become pregnant through rape. 20% of teen pregnancies are a DIRECT result of rape. Not to mention in 31 states rapists have the SAME PARENTAL RIGHTS as other men to any children they sire. 

" No woman should be forced to give birth to a child she does not want, but even more so if that child is the product of a rape."

Yep, truth right there folks. Thanks to modern contraception and abortion techniques, we can make sure that children are born only when their parents truly want them. It is called progress.

 " Liberal blogs regularly attack any attempt to restrict abortion, and if you oppose abortion even in the case of rape, you are some sort of moral monster in their eyes"

We attack such restrictions for good reason. The situations that lead women to abort are too complex for any legislator not personally involved to know what is the right course of action. And yes, opposing abortion in cases of abuse is beyond the pale to most people for reasons that should be obvious. To take away reproductive choice from a person who was ALREADY forced into said situation is exponentially increasing the abuser's control over them.

" If we allow the means of conception to substantively impact the value of the thing created, then at no time can the value of the thing change."

It isn't about devaluing anyone based on conception circumstances. It is about recognizing that to give rights at conception is to devalue the BORN.

  "I have previously argued that Casey Anthony should be considered a feminist heroine since she essentially had a late-term abortion. In this case I am referring to the life of Caylee Anthony and her possible conception through rape."

I know people in your camp LOOOOVE to exploit late term abortions even though over 90% of abortions take place in the first trimester, but the truth is this doesn't even come close! Abortion involves pregnancies. There was NO PREGNANCY INVOLVED in the crime of Caylee's death. And where in the heck do you get off saying that women who abort are automatically heroines? There are plenty of women who have not aborted that are respected within the pro choice community. And her possible conception through rape? So we arn't even sure if that is the truth. And considering how Casey is a chronic liar, I would not be too surprised if she was lying about this.

" Upon conception, there is nothing added or subtracted from the developing baby."

Bullcrap! If that was true it wouldn't take 9 months to come out. And the point is that you can't give human rights to an embryo without stripping the woman of her humanity in the process. Contraceptives fail, rape happens, birth control sabatoge happens. These are realities and abortion is the medical procedure to help minimize the damage done by these tragedies.
  

"It is a continuous process where a substance, a person, grows in a non-degreed sense. Meaning that from conception to death one is fully human at all times."

A continuous process? I thought you said everything was complete from the beginning? 


"If we adopt the Left’s view of personhood, then it can be degreed and the power to decide that is with the mother or the State."

Or the state? I am not sure why the state would really be involved in the final decision as it rests with the woman.

"Not only that, her mother, Casey, was well within her rights as the mother to take Caylee's life anytime she saw fit."

More strawmen. NO ONE is advocating infanticide. Ironically, countries that have outlawed abortion have HIGHER rates of infanticide and child abandonement than countries with legal abortion. 


"One would also have to tell others who came into existence through rape that their lives were not valuable as a result."

There are pro choice individuals who were born from acts of rape. Next....

"The pro-choice position, which is really a pro-abortion position, requires that infanticide and filicide be accepted."

Sigh. I think I defeated this argument in the above remarks so I will just let this one slide.

 "The only way to prevent this slide is to adopt and argue that personhood is non-degreed and that it fully present at conception."

Look at countries where abortion is legal. Are they sliding into anarchy? NO they are not. Quite the opposite. 
  
"Otherwise as we have seen in the world’s history, unimaginable evil results."

And we have seen in world history that banning abortion does incredible harm to the lives and welfare of women and their ability to participate fully in society.

YOU FAIL.

The " I Will" campaign

My name is Leia Peison. I am a 26 year old autistic college student living in America. I have a wonderful family and a good life. I am currently single but would like to marry someday. Although I will get my tubes tied before I marry, I know that there is always a small possibility that it could fail. If it were to ever fail me, I will have an abortion, whether it is legal or not. I have absolutely no desire to have children and am ill equipped. Nor am I willing to place a child in the adoption system where it will grow up without its genetic parents. If a child is ever born to me, it will be born from love knowing I had a choice to have it or not. If you are a woman who has had or WILL have an abortion if you become pregnant, I ask you to join in on this campaign. Anti choice rhetoric has silenced women for too long. We need to let others know that women who have abortions are good women who are making a responsible choice. Thank you for your time.

Doesn't speak for all impregnated rape victims

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTTGJzTpE9g

The title of the video is "Cristen Hemmins doesn't speak for all rape victims." When did Cristen ever say she did? And this woman you are feauturing isn't proposing to speak for all rape victims impregnated who have aborted?

" If rape is worthy of a capital punishment, well perhaps we can make a case for the father, the rapist being prosecuted."

Prosecuted? Or put to death? They are not the same.

" Many women who have become pregnant as a result of rape say that the abortion was just as traumatic to them as the rape itself."

And many don't. What is your point?

And now a rape survivor begins to speak.

" I was raped a month before I turned 18. And because of that rape I was so fearful and so shameful that I chose abortion."

I am sorry you were raped. But there are already problems with your first statement. You chose abortion because you were pregnant not because you were fearful. And the fact that you admit that you were fearful and unsure of your decision is testimant that you did not come to your decision to terminate after careful consideration. So of course you are going to have trouble adjusting. Anyone would.

"My rape was nothing compared to what I did to my child."

Once again, sorry to hear that. But once again you are coming from a position where you truly didn't want to abort and thought you had no other options. Your background is one of detesting abortion so to come from that background and then abort is going to cause problems. And you are very disingenuous to compare aborting a non sentient embryo to being the victim of rape. I don't buy it

" My rapist didn't kill me I'm standing here alive right now. I have 3 beautiful children at home and a husband who loves me.  But I chose to kill my child out of shame, out of guilt out of fear."

 I'm glad your rapist didn't kill you. Many do, whether it is during the rape, afterwards, or by driving their victims to kill themselves. Once again, no one should abort unless they are sure of their decision. You obviously weren't and that is why you suffered.

" Rape is no excuse for abortion. I want to say that."

Because you had a bad experience doesn't justify taking away choice from other victims.

"I'm the mother of a child that I aborted who  thank the LORD is in heaven."

I was waiting for a religious plug. This entire personhood amendment is about religion. It is not about saving babies. And if your baby is in heaven, why be sad about it?

" I pray for my rapist every day that he comes to know JESUS."

Glad to hear it. That is noble. I hope he comes to know JESUS too.

" I'm tired as a person who was raped and a person who had an abortion I am telling you right now I am tired of using rape as an excuse."

Excuse might not be the best choice of words here. More like reason. I don't think women are trying to make excuses. And instead of saying as a person who was raped and had an abortion, a more accurate description would be a person who was raped and aborted under duress without really wanting to.

" Who do we believe creates life? Did my rapist create the life that was inside of me? No. God almighty created that life."

Whether that is true or not has no bearing on secular law and you have no right to dictate that others must comply with such a belief. You are free to believe that. But you are not free to force others to follow it.

" Do doctors and nurses in petri dishes create life? No, JESUS CHRIST creates life."

Blatant scientific lie. We can OBSERVE the doctors mixing the sperm with the egg. We KNOW how to make it. JESUS has never once come down from heaven, put on a lab coat and gone to work.

" A baby still has to be able to sustain itself inside its mother's womb."

Exactly. And that is just one of many reasons why it is up to her to decide what happens to it.


" This lady is a good lady she protects both the mother and the child."

Women don't need "protected" from their own decision making. They need guidance and support in deciding what is best for THEM.

"But who was there to protect me?"

A better question would be to ask why was no one there to stop you from being raped in the first place. And if you were that unstable to not be able to make a sound decision regarding termination what makes you think you would have made a good mother?

" For years I lived in depression, I contemplated suicide, I attempted suicide. I spent years drinking to numb the pain. To numb the horrific nightmares. Was later diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder, not just because of the rape but because of the abortion."

Really? All of the symptoms you describe could just as easily be attributed to rape alone. And did the doctors actually SAY that your diagnoses was from the abortion also?

" I was done with my rape. I was trying to conceive how in the world did I choose to kill my child."

Not exactly sure how someone could be "done" with rape. And you have already stated how you did it. It was a decision made out of fear.

" Who was going to speak for me as an 18 year old girl who didn't have a family to support her?"

And the tale just gets more twisted. No WONDER you were messed up. To unwantedly go thru a post rape abortion as a teenager with no family support would mess anyone up. But that doesn't mean all women are in your situation. Your trauma comes from your background not the abortion itself.

" It not just about the babies. It's for the moms like me who think they are making a good decision and they're not."

You DIDN'T think you were making a good decision. You admit to that. And now you assume that every woman who aborts is going in with the mentality that you had.

" When you're in the moment you make decisions sometimes that arn't the wisest decisions."

That is why women should stop and truly think about what they are doing before they do it. No matter what decision they come to. But what about women who after careful deliberation decide to go ahead with the abortion? Are they still not making a wise decision.

" Rapists don't create children. GOD creates children."

YIKES!!

" If we believe in the bible, the bible says speak up for those who can't defend themselves."

I wonder how many of the people in that room actively fight child sex slavery, abuse and other atrocities that are going on right now. I wonder how many of the people who are clapping to your story fight to stop rape culture. And rape victims couldn't defend themselves. That is why they became victims. And by supporting reproductive choice, we ARE speaking up for those who can't defend themselves.

More to come.

Prolife Alabama: you are next

http://www.chooselifealabama.org/help.html

"If you are facing an unplanned pregnancy, STI, birth control decision, or thinking about adoption as an option, you need to know all of your options before making any major decisions." 

Agreed. Problem is you don't WANT there to be a decision. Because you don't support reproductive choice. The fact that you mention adoption and NOT abortion or parenting is proof enough that you don't want your reader to consider all the facts. But this is actually a common tactic of anti choice pregnancy centers. They tell women to "think on it" before making a decision until she is too far along to legally make the decision to terminate. And people need to think before they get treated for an sti? What other choice is there but to treat it or let it ravage the body? 

"Abortion is not a procedure most women undergo casually."

True. Although I am shocked to actually see an anti admitting it. And it is the fact that the majority of women DON'T undergo abortion casually that they should have the choice to do it since they have exhausted all other options beforehand. 

"It is something you are driven to in desperation, when the alternatives seem too awful to contemplate."


You just contradicted yourself. If women don't undergo this casually it means they have thought the issue thru and considered all the alternatives, which means they ARE contemplating alternatives. And yes unplanned pregnancy CAN be an awful experience. And no, your paternatlizing statement of women being driven to desperation show that you are just trying to emotionally manipulate the reader into making the choice YOU agree with.


 "Ironically, the very act meant to produce relief, in the long run, often produces its own special brand of agony. If you are suffering from the effects of an abortion, you can Get Help Here." 

I am not going to go too indepth into this one because it has been discredited so many times I frankly get tired of speaking on it. But it is not surprising to me that antis spend sooo much time trying to convince the world that every woman who has an abortion is emotionally scarred for life, as if adoption or parenting don't come with any liabilities. But if you ARE a woman who has had an abortion and you feel as if you have unresolved issues surrounding it, there is a non judgemental hotline you can call at www.exhale.org. Trained counselors will be with you on the other end. Blessings and good luck.

"Decisions you can live with should be based on facts, not opinions."

Says the person who just stated that abortion is chosen out of desperation and not rational decision making.

"More than 80 teenage girls find out that they are pregnant every HOUR in the US."

Very sad indeed. It should be noted that teen pregnancy rates are HIGHEST in 'anti choice" states.

"Option #1 — Parenting"

And here we go. Let's see what they have to say.

• "Nearly 80% of teen moms will end up on Welfare.
• The cost to the American taxpayer for children raised in fatherless homes was $9.1 Billion in 2007.
• Less than 5% of teen dads stay in contact with their girlfriend/child after the child’s first birthday.
• 60% of teen moms do not graduate from high school.
• Of all of the prisoners in any prison in the US, 80% came from fatherless homes.
• The Father is the #1 influence in a child’s life."
So basically they go on a litany of the horrible effects of teen pregnancy. I am curious though as to why they spend so much time on teen pregnancy when the majority of abortions take place in early 20 something women. And considering this is a Christian agency, I find it surprising that they would go on such a spiel about how terrible parenting can be considering how much is preached within christendom about the blessings of parenthood. And how dire is the situation of fatherlessness you preach against going to be if the option of legal abortion is taken away?
• "There are 1.2 million abortions performed each year in the US.
• Since 1973, there have been over 50 million abortions.
• A heart beat can be detected at 18-22 days after conception.
• Brain waves can be detected at 40 days after conception.
• All major organs and body parts are present at 8 weeks of development.
• Fetus—a Latin term for “offspring” or “young”.
• It does not mean blob of flesh or tissue.
• 90% of women who see an ultrasound will NOT go through with an abortion.
• There are 2 basic types of abortions—Surgical and Chemical
• Life begins at conception."
Regarding the brain wave statement, I have heard conflicting details about whether that is true or not. And as for all present organs being complete at 8 weeks, many of the important pathways in the brain that lead to pain response are not present until AT LEAST the third trimester. And with the advent of RU-486, abortions can now take place at around 4 weeks.  And so what if the latin term for fetus means "offspring"? The term zygote means yolked. And I'm pretty sure everyone reading this was aware before hand that the term Fetus didn't mean blob. Stop being pretentious.  And I just LOOOVE how you end your sentence with "life begins at conception" as if conceptual personhood is universally agreed upon. So much for basing decisions on facts and not opinions eh?
• "Option # 3—Adoption
  
• There are 2 million couples waiting to adopt a baby.
• Less than 1% of unplanned pregnancies end with an adoption plan.
• If 1 of every 10 women seeking an abortion would choose adoption, then there would be 120,000 children placed with adoptive families. There would NOT be any unwanted children. T
• here are 3 types of adoptions—Open, Semi-Open, and Confidential
• In adoption, ALL decisions are made by the birthparents."
And here it is. The piece that exposes these people for what they truly are. There intent in running this center has NOTHING to do with helping women make wise decisions for their personal situations. It has EVERYTHING to do with manipulating them into bearing children at all costs to their personal lives and preferably giving the children away to nice Christian couples to be raised in a "proper" environment. I have heard of this phenomenon before. It is called shotgun adoptions. 

"Positive Adoption Language

Don’t Use—”Real Parents” Instead Use—”Birth or Biological Parents”

Don’t Use—”Gave Up or Put Up” Instead Use—”Make an Adoption Plan or Choose Adoption”

Don’t Use—”Keeping It” Instead Use—”Parenting

Wow. The manipulation in this last part is stunning. You are clearly trying to get women to give children up. This has nothing to do with treating women as people capable of making their own decisions regarding pregnancy.

YOU FAIL!

More Priests for Life Pownage

Letter 177
"The debate over the proposed abortion bill is leading down the same old rabbit trail--abortions for rape or incest."

That "same old rabbit trail" has alot of significance. It is to remind people of the repurcussions of what banning abortion entails.


"A common response from pro-lifers is to say how few abortions are due to rape or incest. This is a point that needs to be made."

I don't care how rare it is. And by rare you need to be specific. It is actually THOUSANDS of women every year. I suspect that you say it is an important point to be made because you recognize that banning abortion will hurt at least SOME rape victims and you want to skip over this reality as quickly as possible.

" However, the rape question also feeds a fear that people already have in their minds: "What if our daughter is raped? What if my sister is raped? What if I'm raped?"

Yeah, so what if I am? And you need to also acknowledge the fear that people already have from the fact that they have ALREADY been raped! And this fear is a legitimate one considering the rates of sexual violence in this country. It is worth noting that countries that ban abortion tend to have the highest rates of rape. But what alot of people don't even consider is that even without the rape experience, ANYONE can have an unintended pregnancy. There are numerous accounts of people changing their minds about abortion once they themselves were affected by an unplanned pregnancy.

"We need to do all we can to help the woman who is pregnant through rape. What does she need?"

I agree that we need to do all we can to help these women. And that includes letting them abort. What she needs is choice.

 "Before we can answer that, we need to examine what her specific problems are."

The problems for survivors will be unique to the individual.

"Researchers say that women feel dirty, helpless, and insecure after having been raped."

Common sense. But I think it is interesting that you note the feeling of helplessness. That is very important. They have had their power taken away from them. To restore that power is crucial. And I am sure that strangers coming in and telling them that they don't know what is best for them so they need to let others decide is really going to help them feel less insecure.

 "They experience shame or guilt, as if they were somehow responsible."

And I have no doubt that if she goes aheads and decides to abort, you will do everything in your power to make sure she feels that way again.


"They feel violated,"


Because they were.

"But almost never will you hear it said that pregnancy is the primary problem."

NOT true. I also think it is notable that you state pregnancy isn't the primary problem. You don't say that it is not a problem at all.

"There are many, many examples of women who say that they have at least learned to accept and live with the fact that they have been raped. However, many who had abortions say they will never be able to accept the fact that they killed their own baby."

How about instead of reinforcing the societal stigma against women who abort, which most likely lead to them having such feelings in the first place, you work towards helping the women do MORE than just "learning to live with it."  Better yet, work towards rape prevention itself.


"Through abortion she becomes not only a victim of someone else's actions, but of her own as well."

She became a victim again because of people like YOU who villify these women.

"Let's not victimize the rape victim twice."

Agreed. And let's do that by making sure they are not forced into another decision against their will by having the abortion option taken from them.

"She needs love, not abortion."

She needs love. To best show that love, we must respect her wishes regarding abortion.

You FAIL!

Gotquestions.org.... I'm BAAAAAAACK!!

http://www.gotquestions.org/children-blessing.html

Question: "Are children always a blessing from God?"

Let's keep reading to find out shall we?

Answer: "The Scriptures are very clear that God is present in the creation of every human life. "

Is it not possible that he could be "present" in the sense that he infuses a soul but not that he "pokes" the whole thing into being?

"The fact that God sovereignly superintended David's creation caused him to praise God. David also pointed out the fact that God had the details of his life planned before eternity."

I do wonder though if he would have praised GOD otherwise. Since GOD knows the future, it is not too far fetched that he could see that David would come to be and that he could then make plans for him.

"Of course, this brings up a very good question."

Why? Why does it  bring up a good question? If it is truly from GOD, there should be no logical inconsistencies. But let's get on to the question at hand.

"What about those conceived out of rape or illegitimacy?"

HOLD UP! How can children be born illegitimate if GOD planned them? And why exactly do you make a distinction between a rape induced pregnancy and an "illegitimate" one?


"The parent or parents that are responsible for that child may not "feel" as though that child is a blessing from God, but how that child was conceived does not mean that God did not sovereignly superintend its formation in the womb as David speaks of."

I find it totally cringeworthy that you consider a rapist to be a "parent" figure. Only biologically at best. And why are the parents responsible for the child? I thought it was GOD that superimposed it?
And I LOOVE how you put " feels" in parenthesis. Like the thoughts and experiences of the parents should be of no account. And you are a sick freak for thinking GOD uses rape.

"God has a plan and purpose for every person born regardless of how that birth came about. If this were not so then the Scripture would not have said so. In the New Testament, we read that God loves us so much that He sent His Son to die for us (John 3:16). "

Does he have a plan for those that were aborted? And why would he create such a situation?

"It is God's plan and desire that each child be born according to His plan for us and that is through marriage. When that does not happen, it does not exclude the fact of God's love and care for the child."

If it is his plan for each child to be born in matrimony, why does it not happen that way?

You FAIL!

Gender Betraying

http://femaletalk.com/news/abortion-scam-why-pro-choice-really-anti-woman-why-feminist-argument-really-sexist

"It is hard to find a political debate in which the abortion issue does not get raised."

Are you complaining? Whose fault do you think that is? I am pretty sure that is exactly what your movement wants.

"It is easily the most heatedly argued issue in the United States and one in which most people are very passionate about and it has been heralded as the quintessential women's rights issue of the modern age;"

It doesn't have to be so heated. In fact, it doesn't have to be heated at all. It most certainly is an important and, dare I say ( sarcasm) THE most important cause for women.


"However, is abortion really a women's rights issue or is it in fact one of the most sexist, anti-woman ideas in histoyr? "

Now it gets interesting. Let's keep reading.


"Typically, the abortion issue centers around the baby in question "

Maybe in your circles but not in mine. ALL factors, born, unborn, yet to be born and societal impact are all considered. The fact that your focus is ALL about the embryo is the very problem.

"and while there are certainly some very valid and important arguments to be made there"

Sure there are. We never said their wasn't.


 "I want to challenge you to step away from those arguments, regardless of which side of the fence you are on, and to look at the role between women's rights, societal views of women and abortion."

Wow, an anti choicer ACTUALLY saying for people to consider the woman for a moment. WOW.  Let's keep reading.

"The first and foremost argument made in support of abortion is that it is a woman's decision- her body, her choice."

In many  circles. The BIG argument though is that abortion is needed for women to have total control over their reproductive lives which IS essential to equality.

 "But what is this really saying?"

It's saying exactly what it says it says. NEXT.

"Instead of putting equal responsibility on the men for the sexual behavior and for their offspring, the abortion debate itself is saying to women that you, and you alone are solely responsible for getting knocked up and because it is your fault, it is your problem to deal with."

And here is is folks. It doesn't take long for the misoginy to seep thru. Abortion IS taking responsibility!! What is irresponsible is to give birth when you are unready. And this is a decision that is OFTEN made by both parties. HECK, in some countries you even need spousal consent. Many men actually USE pregnancy as a way to "entrap" women into staying with them. And sorry, when it comes to blaming women for "getting knocked up" the people in your camp don't have a leg to stand on. I have lost count the number of times I have heard people call women who abort sluts or say that she should just have kept her legs shut.

"There is nothing liberating or empowering about this argument, in fact it is more condescending and sexist than even the whole “know your place” idea."

How many times have i had someone in your camp tell me that women should accept their place as mothers? Yeah, lots of times. What is condescending is your ignorant statement that women make these decisions on their own without any other guidance or thought put into it.

"And then of course, there is the issue of informed consent, if it is really about choice, why are so few women ever informed about the realities and risks of abortion?"

They ARE informed!! It is law!. Another strawman. And do you warn women of the risks of childbirth and the healing period after it?

"Further, it is used as a fail-safe to send the message that abortion is needed to clean up after the mess that irresponsible women create."

You are doing a poor job of hiding what you truly think of women who abort. It just goes back to the whole fallacy that women who abort are looking for an easy way out. And no, women don't think they are going in for an "abortion broom." That is such an assanine comment about cleaning up a mess.

"Instead of saying that women are empowered to make their own decisions regarding sexuality and reproduction prior to conception, we as a society seem to act as if women do not have a choice (since after all they are portrayed as being merely sexual objects) and therefore abortion is necessary to take care of the unwanted consequences afterward."

I agree women are portrayed as merely sex objects quite regularly in this society. Problem is, a large portion of that comes from YOUR camp. Yes, we need to fight to make sure women are not in positions to need an abortion. But that is NOT what your camp fights for. And we act as if women don't have a choice? Isn't "choice" what you are arguing against?

"This is an extremely negative and dangerous argument that undermines women's rights and silences our voices."

What is extremally dangerous and negative is the societal attitude towards women who abort that they are wrong and sinners for doing it. 

"We should, instead, be empowering ourselves to take control of our own sexuality, to wait until we are ready to deal with it and to advocate more choice and accessibility in birth control options that truly put women in charge-- that would be the real choice, not taking it to an extreme after the fact, even if it risks our health and well being and future conception possibilities. But to do this, would be to threaten the current male driven society."

WOW, an anti advocating birth control. Glad to see it. I hope the people in your camp start to listen up. But do NOT start with the whole abortion is dangerous speil. It is one of the safest medical procedures we have today. YES, there is risk. But there is risk in every operation.

"Our current society, particularly in the West, is driven by the idea that women are sexual objects to satisfy men on demand."

Fully agree with that statement except for the point about it being particularly horrid in the west. I implore you to do some research into the treatment of middle eastern women.

"It has long been held that men control all aspects of sexuality in this society and with the rate of pornography, so called "gentleman's clubs", and high rates of sexual assaults and other crimes against women, we can see that clearly—it is all geared to cater to the image of men being in control."

WOW, an anti speaking out against sexual assault. That is commendable. You are the first one I have EVER seen do that.  Not surprisingly though, countries with strict anti abortion laws are the most patriarchal.

"To empower women to take charge, and to actually be the ones to control their own sexuality would threaten this and thus, it plays better into the hands of sexism to push abortion as a “clean up” alternative instead of giving us the power to control conception in the first place."

Yes, that is why we in the pro choice movement are dedicated to increasing access to birth control and other such services. But speaking of controlling fertility, that is EXACTLY what abortion allows us to do.

"What about the so called “hard cases” of rape?"

What's with the so-called? You don't think rape is a hard case? And I can think of hard cases that don't involve rape.

"This is often used at the forefront of the debate as the reason why abortion must be legal, but in reality it is merely trying to play upon the fears and concerns of the “weaker sex” and to almost make an excuse for rape by saying “well you can always have an abortion” as if the trauma of such a horrific violation is just going to go away and you are expected to just go on and forget about it because at least you can have an abortion if you get pregnant; how could you be more insulting? And they push this sexist attempt to placate women while hiding the fact that only 1-2% of all abortions are due to rape or incest, a little fact that they tend to leave out."

WOW, soooo much to pown here. There are many reasons why abortion MUST be legal. Rape is ONE of many. Play upon fears? NO, like you said sexual assault is a common crime that every woman is susceptible to. This is a real issue that affects thousands of women every year in this country alone. Speaking of "weaker sex" how physically strong do you think a woman would be against an attacker if she is made to stay pregnant? And you are SOOOO dishonest with your insinuation that these women think abortion is going to take it all away!! They know it won't. But it can put them on the path to getting past it. And that statistic you cited adds up to around 13 to 16,000 women A YEAR!

"Perhaps the most diabolical part of it all is that those behind the great abortion scam use women to further their own sexist agenda and convince women that they need these misogynistic ideas, that they are even for their own good and they point to anyone in the pro-life camp as being a threat against women."

Yep, because you ARE a threat to women. And we use women? Like we are just making women join forces with us? Come off it.

"While I certainly will agree that a good portion of the right is made up of those on the sexist bandwagon, that is not true of all those who are Pro-Life."

I have yet to meet any that were not sexist in some fashion. That is not to say it isn't possible. I just highly suspect it to be unlikely. And since by your own admission there are people in your camp who hold that view, what are YOU doing to change it?

"Even the democrats and the liberal left are full of pro-life supporters as are many avid and vocal feminists."

I am aware of that. And unfortunately they are spitting out the same dribble you are.

"But apart of the arguments from a feminist or anti-feminist stance as the case may be, what about the actual physical issues involved? Is abortion a safe, even important medical option for women as the pro-abortion activists claim or is it more harmful to women than they are willing to admit? "

I already addressed this. There are risks with any surgery.

"When we sift through all of the information and separate the facts from the propaganda and look at the real underlying issues and hidden agendas, we are left with one inescapable conclusion- Abortion is an all out assault on women. "

And from reading your article here I have escaped with one conclusion. Anti choicers are soo desperate to hide their agenda that they will go to any lengths necessary to make it appear as if they give a crap about women. Sorry, better luck next time?

"This may be why we are seeing many Pro-Life Feminist groups springing up around the world to take a stand against this war that has been raged against women, and to reclaim our own pride and control over our lives by saying no to abortion and realizing that Pro-Choice is really just Anti-Woman."

And I am happy to report that more and more countries themselves are starting to realize how important abortion rights are for women and are reforming their backwards laws to reflect this reality. Even the UN and World Health Organization are starting to do as such.

You FAIL!